Guys, never spend more than twenty bucks on a date until you are in a relationship that is serious, exclusive, and physical.

If she expects more than that out of you before you have reached that stage, she is indeed a money hungry bitch that you are better off without.

Sorry Winggirl, but fortunately (for us, not necessarily for you) guys are wisening up and recognizing and avoiding traps that some, but certainly not all, women use to take advantage of us. Do you want money? Get a job. Do you want solid, healthy relationships with guys? Be prepared to contribute equally to them.

Especially your comment at the bottom – Screen her before you go out on a date!

It seems like a lot of guys don't get this. MAKE HER FEEL FEMINIME by BEING MASCULINE. It's not THAT hard…

And a part of being masculine is chivalry and courtship (paying for dinner like it's nothing to discuss (or think about) shows both)

It's not about buying attention. That's the wrong motivation.

It's about allowing her feminime to blossom.

blah- blah-blah… Another FAILED comment.
WING GIRL, tell me if my role as a man is to spend #300 on a date, wine and dine you, make you feel comfortable, create the right atmosphere and chemistry, court you, woo you, wow you, make you feel special, make you feel 'FEMININE' and fulfil my masculine roles. would you happily fulfil your FEMININE roles "in the car perhaps"?

it seems anytime go on a date its like im tryin to impress, when i pay hardly do i ever get an appreciation/thank you(apart from the few classy ones)Their body languange and lack of response sort of communicates 'well its your duty anyways' or even see see it as a ROLE i have to fulfil.
Sometimes things dont quite workout. what happens to the TIME & MONEY? gone! (There's no refund policy..Lol)

Apart from it not working it shouldnt take any effort for the women to pay her own share of the date afterall it takes 2 to tangle. Moreover, if a woman is really interested in a guy she should be able to do this in a heartbeat and also make him feel comfortable, so he doesnt feel used without being percieved/judged negatively.

Girls that share thesame views as WING GIRLS(the poster) in my opinion are self-centered and less desirable. i would be naive in thinking a good amount of women dont share thesame views Hence, my first & second date are in places where money isnt needed, guarantees fun experience and can display my desirable traits.

In conclusion, i think guys should only pay if there's a genuine 'connection' with the girl and she's "verified" which usually, wouldnt be known before the first date. but if its known, then why not. after that then guys should ALWAYS pay regardless.

How about when taking a girl out say: "Dress this way (for whatever activity you will do, you don't have too give all the details just hints) and bring a little cash with you."

That leaves all the options open while still remaining a bit mysterious in an honest way.

A woman with a silly rule like this is in my opinion hinking and not feeling and therefore in the wrong place. Make the first few times you meet cost nothing or little, your time should be enough. A woman should feel emotionnally protected, not financely.